8December 2021
it's time to find out how the Thursday diplomats
have lasted over a thousand miles ish of wear by leaving its fate up to the wheel of death and
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that so check them out below now let's go over the boot information so the brand is Thursday the
style is the diplomat the color we got is the matte black they weigh one pound nine ounces they
retail for 199 dollars and they're made in Mexico now let's go over the information that we can
gather about the condition of these boots before we cut it in half and we're not going to go over
every single detail because we've already done a video on the diplomats we're focusing strictly
on the condition of these so if you want more information go go watch the set the first video
because I'm trying to keep these short and concise as I'm currently rambling so starting with the
upper so this matte black leather is actually in pretty decent condition for how many miles these
have been worn and part of that is because the owner probably took pretty decent care of them and
conditioned them but the other thing is these are not used for work and that's not the intended
use of Thursday boots so it's really comparing it's not really fair to compare a work boot to a
casual boot because it's two completely different worlds of of durability so we're really putting
these through the lens of a casual stylish boot and the durability thereof so keep that in mind
throughout this video but for a casual boot leather it looks really good and it's lasted
really well next to the lining and this was a criticism i had of these boots last year when we
cut apart the brand new pair because it's just a seam that goes right up the middle there's no
dedicated internal counter cover and my concern was that seam was going to wear out and the
the insides were going to start falling apart but as you can see from this boot it's not
worn through and that's why I love doing these worn out versions because it it shows
me what I got right shows me what i got wrong and really starts filling in those gaps that's
left behind by cutting apart a brand new boot next to the construction so this is a goodyear
welted boot and we don't see very often a 200 boot that's a true goodyear welt with a leather
well because if you look at the Carolinas they're 200 they have a synthetic well but the
big difference between the two is the Thursdays are made in Mexico the Carolinas are made in the
united states so I'm thinking the way that they're able to get away with the leather welt for 200
boot is by opening up those margins by having them made in Mexico rather than rather than the united
states and that brings us to the midsole and that the biggest criticism of Thursday that I have
and a lot of people have is in order to get it to that 200 price point they've got to cut some
corners somewhere and so all throughout the guts of this boot it's all synthetic and man-made
materials which aren't as durable as leather and as I learned from Trenton and heath
that synthetic stuff just kind of falls apart during the reselling process but one nice
thing about this Thursday boot in particular is that the midsole is just one fat slab of
leather so when it comes time to resolving these all the cobbler has to do is pull this old
outsole off and glue a new one on and none of that synthetic material ever has to get touched and
speaking of outsoles this is the Vibram Christy which is a rubber based outsole and there's
basically two types of outsoles with wedges there's the rubber based Vibram's and then there's
the polyurethane based outsoles you see in the the Carolinas and the Thorogood's the rubber based
outsoles are more grippy they're a little bit softer but they wear out quicker the polyurethane
outsoles aren't quite as grippy but they're a little bit longer lasting so now it's time to
decide the fate of these poor Thursday mock toes by spinning the wheel of death and every single
week we're going to add a new portion to the pie that you guys choose by going to the comment
section and and commenting what you want us what cutting apparatus you want us to add and whichever
gets the most like we'll add this week we added a chainsaw so now it's beside the fate of these poor
Thursday mock toes let's spin the wheel of death so so okay got these things murdered with
the knife let's see what's inside so this is what I love about cutting apart worn
boots because from the outside you would say there's no issues with this boot but once you
open this thing up you can see that the counter has completely disintegrated and this is
a perfect example of why people prefer leather counters over these thermoplastic counters
because leather doesn't disintegrate like this and if you don't know what a counter is it's
the structural piece that is at the heel that helps maintain that shape helps cup your heel
and prevents it from completely collapsing and sagging and so so that's why in a higher quality
boot people really look for leather counters because they don't disintegrate like this one and
this boot also perfectly shows one of the issues that I have with goodyear welted boots and like i
said earlier there's the stitch that connects the welt to the upper to underneath the lasting
board there's a little teeny rib right there and that rib creates a void throughout the entire
boot that's usually filled with foam or cork or some sort of material to fill that void but the
problem with cork is it always compresses a lot more than the actual rib itself compresses so you
end up with a high spot around the outside of the the insole that can cause a high pressure
point at your pinky toes and your big toe and it's pretty clearly demonstrated in this boot
right here because you can see how the cork is so thin right there but that rib is still really high
and you can see where his toes were sitting on a little bit of a ridge but to Thursday's credit
if you look at this boot that we cut apart last year it's a more modern version they've
shortened that rib considerably so even if this does compress a lot you don't have quite
as much variation in the height of the rib to the lower parts of this cork filled void
and another change they've made is in the shank so the pair we just cut has a thinner shank that's
sandwiched between the hard compressed cardboard the more modern versions have a lot thicker shank
that's underneath of that compressed cardboard and that's one thing that I've really grown to
like about Thursday is that they are completely obsessed with every single material and aspect of
their boots and they're constantly changing them and improving them and I know firsthand because
they've sponsored videos and I've talked to the guys about even the tiniest little things that
they've adjusted and so that kind of brings us to the pros and cons so obviously pros Thursday's
constant improvement the next pro is these have lasted pretty well for a casual boot I love the
leather midsole I love the leather welt for cons obviously the disintegrated thermoplastic counter
that big rib all the way through that they've changed to some degree and those synthetic guts
all through this the construction of the boot overall if after seeing this I wouldn't have any
hesitations in buying the Thursday boots you know there now you fully understand what compromises
you're making and buying a 200 boot instead of a 300 boot and now you can decide if you're okay
with those and that's why I love cutting apart the boots and I love even more cutting apart these
worn out boots because we're really able to dig into some of the more fine details so let me know
what you guys think and what your experience with these boots are and don't forget to comment below
on what you want us to add to the wheel of death and check out the merch I'll link those and
everything else below thank you guys see ya