3December 2021

today we're looking at one of the most expensive   tools we've ever had on the channel it's 
the Milwaukee Force Logic knockout tool it goes through that light butter with great price 
comes great responsibility and i'm expecting for   what we pay for this to be immensely impressed uh 
well hopefully what disappoint Gary because yeah   you know me i like i like a tool with a purpose 
you know we've previously on the channel reviewed   the Makita coffee machine which divides the efixx 
team but uh yeah will this uh force logic from   Milwaukee will it be a winner for us here at efixx 
compared to our traditional way of cutting holes   the cone cutter the step cutter or the hole saws 
that everybody's using so we have teased this out   previously in a short and everyone said why didn't 
you use a hole cutter or a or a step drill that's   what we're using but hopefully today we can prove 
that this tool is of worth and there's something   possibly for the serious metal launcher we 
don't think it's a hobbyist tool if you're   the occasional uh this is not a hobbyist let's 
stop there this is not a hobbyist tool because   it's not hobbyist money okay and we will reflect 
on the cone cutter and the hole saw in another   video as well but i'm going to need to see what's 
in this box before you show me the receipt for it   here we go so what we got then okay so 
here's the uh here's the star of the show   this is the Milwaukee force logic this 
is obviously the hydraulic element of it   it works on the M18 battery system and it comes 
with a two ampere hour battery it did come with   the battery it did come with a battery but yeah 
it's only the two amp hour but i think that'll do   a significant number of holes um obviously and the 
charger to go with it uh and then some selection   of bits you need obviously the most important bits 
being the punch and die selection uh of course a   bit like uh you know when you buy a car when 
there's some switches missing on the dashboard   yeah clearly with there's a few missing in this 
uh European kit i suspect our American friends   get the two inch conduit adapter included and 
the one and a half inch conduit adapter or in   metric terms 50 millimetres and 63.

goes up to 100 is that right it goes up   100 but in this one we've got starting at yeah 16 
millimetres 20 millimetres 25 32 and 40 millimetre   cutters so pretty logical sizes for an electrical 
contractor then yeah that's it and there's some   other parts in that we're going to show 
you as we go through the demonstration   should we look at that demonstration then okay so 
let's get started with the force logic knockout   tool get it out of the box getting like a box 
especially when it's full of accessories like this   well i'll have a pouch and you're going to 
have to win me over but i'm leaning in already   it looks great yeah so first thing i'm going to 
do is put this adapter in that allows us to use   a quick release mechanism so paired with 
that is this guard tool just in case you   want to attempt to stick your finger into 
the mechanism which i would advise with   yeah 60 kilonewtons of force is not a good idea 
so this latches with this ball adapter here   and then there's our activating tool for the 
for the die there's two different sides of those   adapters this is the smaller one yes this is a 
smaller one so a smaller adapter for smaller sized   um dies itself so let's just centre punch with 
our automatic centre punch where we're gonna drill   through so yeah the one thing everyone else misses 
out the reviews yes you do have to drill a pilot   hole in this case 12 millimetres of the day she 
actually says 11.1 couldn't get that in a whole   punch in a in a in a drill but so we have to go 
with the nearest which for us is 12 millimetres   so you've got some of your favourite right there 
Gary what is it yes the old cooling gel yeah   so get the get that out of the way we've drilled 
our pilot holes for now let's just assemble   uh the so there's the die mechanism onto the 
activator put that in there and then put our   cutting die underneath so we've drilled a hole but 
we're going to benefit from having that a super   clean hole when we cut it aren't we well if this 
if this review turns out well it will be clean if   it's not then it'll be a raggy hole but there we 
go pulling that through now okay it's just single   trigger to operate that and there we go we've 
removed that uh additional material so i've put   a 25 millimetre hole in there okay so that's 
the 25mm one we're going to obviously see the   remnants of that material now when it comes out 
yeah so again you always have to unscrew the die   anyway if you were going to use another um another 
for this for another hole and there's our waste   material and that hole is super smooth and i would 
say that's probably the biggest feature isn't it   the fact that you're not coming in you're not 
deburring and it's punched not actually drilled   out that hole yeah and that's a 25 millimetre 
adapter and it's exactly sized for that so now   let's uh just up the size a bit to a 40 millimetre 
means i need to use a bigger activating pin so i'm   going to need to swap that over you can go as 
big as 100mm all right yeah can in in mild steel   that's three Milwaukee thickness or two and a half 
Milwaukee in stainless steel you'll see this is   marked it's handed you can see pointing towards 
the tool and pointing towards where you put the   the die so we know a 20 mil hole in order that 
we can get our pin in is that right yes that's it   mark that on the step drill there Gary because 
sometimes you get a bit carried away with a step   drill and miss your steps a bit like missing a 
bus stop however it wouldn't necessarily be an   issue and we'll see that later on in the video if 
your hole was a little bit too big no that's it   it would be on the 16 millimetre one though Gary 
i can tell you that that's that's for a future   video okay so all good so i'm going to spin this 
in the bottom as usual and then we're going to   so the good thing about this quick release 
mechanism you're putting it in there then   bringing the tool in swivelling the guard round if 
you didn't have that obviously you'd have to wait   the two on there before you're ready to go there's 
something quite satisfying about seeing it punch a   hole out rather than cut one isn't that good yeah 
that's it there we go really quick really clean   again just push the trigger again to release 
the mechanism swivel around the guard   and then yeah we've removed it that's the 
advantage of that quick release mechanism you can   get the tool and the die off there okay so again 
opening out we'll see the material left uh behind   yeah it's good super smooth hold on 
take it when you rub your finger and   take your glove off couldn't 
you it's really as smooth yeah   so now let's look at another scenario where we 
traditionally might have used the old double hole   saw trick we're going to enlarge an existing 
hole okay so we're going to make this what   40 mil hole from a 25 mil yeah that's the only die 
we could afford in this set so yeah we'd love to   have the 100 millimetre one but uh yeah we're 
stuck at 40.

So i've marked the centre lines of   that hole you could potentially go off centre if 
you wanted to move your hole a little bit forward   put that in place and then just line it up with 
the the marks we've got the red marks on the on   the uh on the on the uh die are great for that and 
i didn't realize what they were for so that makes   logical sense so i could have brought it forward 
backward left or right from that original hole   we've centred it and now we're going to go from 
25 mil to 40 mil okay again just push that trigger   we should have a nice clean roll emerging 
seal yeah just popped out don't it yeah   that's really good in it 
yeah those lines are perfect   so again same procedure in terms of removing 
the material we've just cut out just release   the mechanism and it just pops out that ball ball 
attachment is really good so i'll just swivel the   cutting die out yep and you see the lines as well 
i like that yeah that's really good one thing   people say is in that can you do stainless steel 
yeah so the most difficult bit about the stainless   steel is drilling the pilot hole but i'm going to 
demonstrate another feature here we're going to   remove the quick release mechanism to shorten the 
tool so say you were going to work inside a panel   and you just needed to gain a little bit more 
depth okay so you make it a little bit more   compact for us then so remove the guard and we're 
just going to remove the adapter for the ball pull   okay and then we're going to put the activator 
straight into the uh into the device itself   we'll say going to shorten it roughly about 100 
mil yeah it's about 100 millimetres again you'll   see it's uh it's handed on this pole you'll see 
it's marked up for which side goes into the into   the tool and which side goes into the die okay 
that's a little bit of Milwaukee branding on there   yep so just we got to get this tight we're just 
obviously just spinning it in yeah so do that but   then the challenge is obviously you've got to hold 
the hole uh tool itself while you put the punch on   but you can see there we've shortened it by 
about 100 millimetres so now i'm just going   to punch from the inside out on this panel so put 
the put the die on this side and then we're going   to put the punch on the outside ah right okay 
we should see this will be the first one you   get are really good and this is uh in stainless 
steel so this is probably pushing it to its limit   yeah this is about one and a half millimetres 
but we'll do a two and a half millimetre   stainless steel again just push the trigger and 
watch this wow it's not going through butter yeah that is really good yeah and again just remove that you 
can see how cleanly it's got that and we know we're gonna have a smooth 
hole we've seen it before and we yeah but   unbelievably smooth well there's one thing that's 
undoubtable there it was a smooth hole we said   how many times you said that's a smooth hole 
that's a smooth hole what's a smooth hole it   it's a smooth hole and it's you know stainless 
steel this is 316 grade stainless steel marine   grade stainless that is notoriously difficult 
to work with and yeah okay the most difficult   bit is drilling the pilot hole that's the 
that's the issue people have got to get over   but obviously it depends on the market 
you're working if you're in stainless steel   you're doing a lot of stuff in food factories and 
stuff like that yeah well if you're drilling a 20   mil hole to punch out 100 mil hole in stainless 
steel i would argue the payoff of drilling that 20   mil hole and it doesn't matter as we said they're 
a bit raggedy that you could actually punch out a   perfect 100 mil hole yeah no deburring etc with 
that yeah exactly so yeah so that side it's   i think it's you know me i like a i like a a 
tool with a purpose and i think this yeah does   a great job if that's what you're into yeah and 
again it's not for the occasional cutter of holes   the step cut is a perfectly adequate tool 
and people are using them this one down here   so as i come off me step and back on it again 
there we go okay anyone notice i'm a little taller   so if i go back here that's my true heart i'm 
getting a little bit fed up with beans for sure   so we've got this one from Mandrex somewhere as 
well that's the electrician's hole saw kit which   we like with a fine-tooth blade don't we yes we 
do and if you watch our next video you'll see how   this mandrake system compares head-to-head with 
what we've got in the Milwaukee not head-to-head   we're not having a race because i know this 
works this bit of kit here does never appear   on my side of the race and i'll end up with the 
traditional method and we know for people who've   watched the races before how they all finish so 
we'll call that a review we will and uh so this   is on the second time we've featured Milwaukee 
on the channel uh first first no no no no no   that was the Milwaukee oh yeah that was not the 
Milwonkey yeah yeah it was the Milwaukee where   we couldn't cut straight well i'm getting there 
with that actually we get actually we cut this   Legrand trunking with the Milwonkey if you haven't 
seen that review check that out because that is uh   i think there's another good tool that that's 
especially growing on me as we as we start using   it more and more around the workshop yeah 
i would say it's one of those tools for the   flashier electrician you get out your Milwonkey 
or the the chops or effectively a handheld chops   saw check out that one we'll leave it in the 
link in description or the eye above our ahead   and this one here probably uh more your style 
i'm probably more the traditional electrician   but we'll find out in the next video but as 
always we'd love your feedback and you have   given us tons already about the force logic from 
are we going to milwonkey or Milwaukee Milwaukee   here we'll keep on on track yeah we'd love that 
feedback please leave all those comments below   i'm taller hello my name's Gary and 
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